Legislature(2019 - 2020)BUTROVICH 205

03/11/2019 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES

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03:30:52 PM Overview: Alaska Department of Law Overview of State Litigation on Federal Issues
04:44:58 PM Adjourn
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on Federal Issues by:
- Seth Beausang, Chief Assistant Attorney General
- Tom Lenhart, Assistant Attorney General
- Emma Pokon, Assistant Attorney General
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 11, 2019                                                                                         
                           3:30 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Chris Birch, Chair                                                                                                      
Senator John Coghill, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Cathy Giessel                                                                                                           
Senator Lora Reinbold                                                                                                           
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                          
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW: ALASKA DEPARTMENT OF LAW OVERVIEW OF STATE LITIGATION                                                                 
ON FEDERAL ISSUES                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SETH BEAUSANG, Chief Assistant Attorney General                                                                                 
Natural Resources Section                                                                                                       
Alaska Department of Law                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided an overview of state litigation on                                                               
federal issues.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
TOM LENHART, Assistant Attorney General                                                                                         
Natural Resources Section                                                                                                       
Alaska Department of Law                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided an overview of state litigation on                                                               
federal issues.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
EMMA POKON, Assistant Attorney General                                                                                          
Environmental Section                                                                                                           
Alaska Department of Law                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided an overview of  state litigation on                                                             
federal issues.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:30:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CHRIS BIRCH called the  Senate Resources Standing Committee                                                             
meeting to order  at 3:30 p.m. Present at the  call to order were                                                               
Senators  Coghill, Kawasaki,  Giessel,  Kiehl, Bishop,  Reinbold,                                                               
and Chair Birch.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW: Alaska Department of  Law Overview of State Litigation                                                               
on Federal Issues                                                                                                               
OVERVIEW: Alaska Department of Law Overview of State Litigation                                                             
                       on Federal Issues                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
3:30:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BIRCH  announced that the  committee will hear  an overview                                                               
from the  Alaska Department of  Law regarding federal  issues and                                                               
conflicts.  He noted  that the  federal government  owns more  60                                                               
percent of all  land in Alaska, approximately  224 million acres;                                                               
this  fact combined  with  the problem  of  federal overreach  on                                                               
state,  local,  tribal,  and  private lands  set  the  stage  for                                                               
disagreement  between  Alaska and  the  federal  government on  a                                                               
range  of   issues  related  to   land  access,  fish   and  game                                                               
management, and the  development of the state's  mineral, oil and                                                               
gas resources.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He said  thankfully the  state has the  attorney general  and the                                                               
Alaska Department  of Law whose duty  it is to assert  and defend                                                               
Alaska's interest  in issues with the  federal government, issues                                                               
that  matter  deeply to  Alaskans  and  that effect  the  state's                                                               
ability to manage its destiny.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He  noted that  committee  members have  received  copies of  the                                                               
current  Alaska Department  of  Law list  of  federal issues  and                                                               
conflicts  dated January  21, 2019.  He announced  that attending                                                               
the  committee  to   brief  members  on  the  25   cases  on  the                                                               
department's  list are  Seth Beausang,  Chief Assistant  Attorney                                                               
General;  Tom  Lenhart,  Assistant  Attorney  General;  and  Emma                                                               
Pokon, Assistant Attorney General.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:32:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SETH   BEAUSANG,  Chief   Assistant  Attorney   General,  Natural                                                               
Resources  Section, Alaska  Department  of  Law, Juneau,  Alaska,                                                               
said  the  department  will  update   the  committee  on  federal                                                               
litigation  matters.  He referenced  a  list  of cases  that  the                                                               
department will address during their  overview. He said the group                                                               
will  skip   cases  that  were  reviewed   in  earlier  committee                                                               
meetings, noting  that the previously addressed  cases dealt with                                                               
navigability issues that  the state is handling, one  case is the                                                               
Sturgeon case that is before the U.S. Supreme Court.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:33:50 PM                                                                                                                    
TOM  LENHART,  Assistant   Attorney  General,  Natural  Resources                                                               
Section,  Alaska Department  of  Law,  Juneau, Alaska,  explained                                                               
that for the last  12 years he has been counsel  for the State on                                                               
the  Roadless Rule  and most  things related  to the  Tongass. He                                                               
specified  that he  would  review the  topic,  "access and  land"                                                               
regarding federal issues and conflicts cases or matters.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He said the  first case he will address is  the Roadless Rule and                                                               
the Tongass  Land Management Plan because  talking about roadless                                                               
litigation  without   talking  about   the  management   plan  is                                                               
impossible.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:35:01 PM                                                                                                                    
He addressed the Roadless Rule case as follows:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   • Roadless Rule:                                                                                                             
        o State of Alaska v. U.S. Department of Agriculture:                                                                    
             square4 D.C. Circuit Court;                                                                                        
             square4 17-5260.                                                                                                   
        o Assistant Attorney Generals:                                                                                          
             square4 T. Lenhart,                                                                                                
             square4 S. Lynch.                                                                                                  
        o Alignment with Feds:                                                                                                  
             square4 Not aligned.                                                                                               
        o Brief Description:                                                                                                    
             square4 State challenged the application of the Roadless                                                           
               Rule in  Alaska. The  Roadless Rule  prohibits the                                                               
               building  of  roads  in  wilderness  areas,  which                                                               
               essentially  shuts  down resource  development  in                                                               
               many areas  of the  Tongass. On a  parallel track,                                                               
               the  State  is  pursuing   a  regulatory  fix  for                                                               
               Alaska.                                                                                                          
        o Status:                                                                                                               
             square4 On the regulatory fix, the State recently entered                                                          
               into  an MOU  for cooperating  agency status  with                                                               
               the U.S.  Department of Agriculture  to work  on a                                                               
               Tongass  state   specific  rule  to   replace  the                                                               
               Roadless   Rule.   The   rulemaking   process   is                                                               
               anticipated to take 18  months. In the litigation,                                                               
               the district  court upheld the Roadless  Rule, and                                                               
               the State  appealed. Briefing has  been completed,                                                               
               but  the  appellate   court  granted  intervenor's                                                               
               request  to  put  the  case   on  hold  until  the                                                               
               rulemaking is done.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. LENHART  explained that in 2001  during the last week  of the                                                               
Clinton Administration,  the USDA promulgated the  Roadless Rule,                                                               
it effectively withdrew from future  development 60 million acres                                                               
of national  forest nationwide,  equivalent to  2 percent  of all                                                               
land in  the U.S.  In Alaska,  in addition  to the  Chugach, road                                                               
construction  and  timber  harvest was  prohibited  on  9-million                                                               
acres of the Tongass National  Forest which dramatically affected                                                               
the Alaska timber industry and other activities as well.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He said  in the 18 years  since the USDA promulgation,  the State                                                               
has remained very busy in  seeking relief from the Roadless Rule.                                                               
The approach has been a  three-pronged effort and all branches of                                                               
the  federal government.  The  State has  been  in federal  court                                                               
almost  nonstop.  The  State  has worked  closely  with  USDA  in                                                               
rulemakings  to   try  and  obtain   some  relief.   The  State's                                                               
delegation  in  Washington, D.C.  has  also  been active  and  on                                                               
numerous occasions  they have  introduced federal  legislation to                                                               
exempt the  Tongass National  Forest, but  the attempts  have not                                                               
been successful to date.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He  addressed  where  the  State   currently  is  in  the  courts                                                               
regarding the Roadless Rule in  the Tongass, noting that the rule                                                               
was not in effect from 2001  to 2011 due to successful litigation                                                               
and USDA  rulemaking exemptions;  however, an "en  banc" decision                                                               
in  2011 by  the  U.S. Court  of Appeals  for  the Ninth  Circuit                                                               
invalidated  the "exemption  rule" that  applied to  the Tongass.                                                               
The  state  filed  new   litigation  challenging  the  underlying                                                               
Roadless  Rule in  the U.S.  District Court  for the  District of                                                               
Columbia and  eight years later  the State is still  fighting the                                                               
battle in the courts.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He  detailed that  the State  has been  through court  battles on                                                               
venue  standings  and statute  of  limitations,  noting that  the                                                               
State received a dismissal on  a statute of limitations where the                                                               
ruling  was taken  up  to the  D.C. Circuit  Court  where it  was                                                               
successfully reinstated. Finally, several  years ago the district                                                               
court  ruled  against   the  State  on  the   merits,  the  State                                                               
immediately  appealed to  the  D.C. Circuit;  the  case has  been                                                               
fully  briefed  for  some  time,  was  on  the  docket  for  oral                                                               
arguments the fall of 2018,  but the environmental interveners in                                                               
the case  moved to hold  the case  in abeyance pending  the final                                                               
outcome of  the USDA's rulemaking.  The State is looking  at ways                                                               
to get  the abeyance lifted.  If the  abeyance is lifted  and the                                                               
case is  moved to  a final  decision the  remedy could  result in                                                               
invalidation of  the entire Roadless  Rule either  nationwide, in                                                               
Alaska, or just the Tongass.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:38:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LENHART addressed  the matter of an amendment  to the Tongass                                                               
Land Resources Management Plan as follows:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
   • 2016 Amendment to the Tongass Land Resources Management                                                                    
     Plan (TLMP):                                                                                                               
        o Assistant Attorney Generals:                                                                                          
             square4 T. Lenhart,                                                                                                
             square4 S. Lynch.                                                                                                  
        o Alignment with Feds:                                                                                                  
             square4 Uncertain.                                                                                                 
        o Brief Description:                                                                                                    
             square4 The 2016 TLMP amendment fully incorporated both                                                            
               the   Roadless   Rule   and   the   Secretary   of                                                               
               Agriculture's  directive   to  rapidly  transition                                                               
               timber harvest  from old  growth to  young growth.                                                               
               The  result would  effectively  place millions  of                                                               
               additional acres off-limits  to timber harvest and                                                               
               other  resource development.  The timber  industry                                                               
               would  likely  be  forced out  of  business  while                                                               
               utilities,  mining and  other industries  would be                                                               
               substantially harmed.                                                                                            
        o Status:                                                                                                               
             square4 The Secretary of Agriculture granted the State's                                                           
               petition  for  a  rulemaking to  amend  the  TLMP,                                                               
               along with  the State's petition for  a rulemaking                                                               
               on the  Roadless Rule. USDA published  a Notice of                                                               
               Intent to  commence the  rulemaking on  August 30,                                                               
               2018. A final rule is expected by summer of 2020.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
He detailed that  in January 2018 the  State petitioned Secretary                                                               
of  Agriculture Sonny  Perdue to  seek both  a new  rulemaking to                                                               
exempt  the  Tongass   and  to  revise  the   2018  Tongass  Land                                                               
Management  Plan. In  August 2018,  Secretary Perdue  granted the                                                               
State's  petition, not  in quite  the  way the  State would  have                                                               
liked, but  there is  rulemaking that is  well underway  with one                                                               
alternative  to  completely  exempt  the Tongass.  The  State  is                                                               
actively  involved  in the  rulemaking  because  the State  is  a                                                               
cooperating  agency   in  committees  with  the   USDA.  A  draft                                                               
Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) is  expected to be issued in                                                               
July 2019 and  a new rule to  be in place within one  year of the                                                               
EIS. The  alternatives will  probably range  from "no  action" up                                                               
through "full exemption" for the Tongass.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LENHART  explained  that  even  if  the  State  gets  a  new                                                               
exemption  rule  or  wins  the  court  decision,  the  2016  Land                                                               
Management  Plan  would  come  in.   Under  the  National  Forest                                                               
Management Act  it's required that  every national forest  have a                                                               
written management  plan and  that the  U.S. Forest  Service take                                                               
all actions  in compliance with  the plan; in effect,  the forest                                                               
plan has  the effect of  law because a  violation of the  plan by                                                               
the  U.S. Forest  Service  is automatically  a  violation of  the                                                               
National  Forest  Management Act  and  fully  enforceable in  the                                                               
federal courts.  The 2016 Land  Management Plan  effectively, not                                                               
technically  but effectively,  is law.  When the  Land Management                                                               
Plan was  revised in 2016  the U.S.  Forest Service took  most of                                                               
the  important restrictions  in the  Roadless Rule  and put  them                                                               
into the  Land Management  Plan; however,  the Roadless  Rule was                                                               
not just referenced  so that if the Roadless Rule  is revised the                                                               
restrictions are  revised, the restrictions were  actually lifted                                                               
substantively so that  even if the Roadless Rule  goes away, even                                                               
if there is a new exemption  rule, the Land Management Plan would                                                               
have to  be amended or  the independent restrictions  would still                                                               
be enforceable  prohibiting tree  cutting and road  building. The                                                               
State  petition asked  that both  be done,  but the  decision was                                                               
made  to  first  do  the  rulemaking  and  then  amend  the  Land                                                               
Management Plan if necessary.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
He summarized  that the finish  line is  not quite in  sight yet,                                                               
after 18 years there is a little while to go.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:41:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  COGHILL   asked  that   Mr.  Lenhart  address   how  the                                                               
management   areas  under   Roadless  Rule   impacts  neighboring                                                               
properties.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LENHART specified  that  the Roadless  Rule  does not  apply                                                               
outside of its boundaries; however,  the rule may limit access to                                                               
properties that are next door.  He conceded that Southeast Alaska                                                               
is a patchwork of federal and state lands.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL asked if there has been litigation on the                                                                       
Roadless Rule's impact on neighboring properties.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. LENHART replied not directly because there is no legal                                                                      
context.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL conceded that his argument is economically                                                                      
related. He remarked that the inability to standup an industry                                                                  
because of the Roadless Rule has been significant.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. LENHART replied that the impact has been huge. He conceded                                                                  
that state  timber sales are not  going to support a  sawmill and                                                               
federal timber sales are needed to maintain the timber industry.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:44:10 PM                                                                                                                    
He addressed the "Shelter Cove Road" case as follows:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
   • Shelter Cove Road:                                                                                                         
        o State v. U.S. Forest Service:                                                                                         
             square4 1:16-cv-00018;                                                                                             
        o Greater Southeast Alaska Conservation Community v.                                                                    
          Stewart:                                                                                                              
             square4 State intervened in support of defendant;                                                                  
             square4 1:16-cv-0009.                                                                                              
        o Assistant Attorney General S. Lynch.                                                                                  
        o Alignment with Feds:                                                                                                  
             square4 Aligned on the end   result   and   not   on                                                               
               justification.                                                                                                   
        o Brief Description:                                                                                                    
             square4 The State intervened to defend the building of                                                             
               Shelter Cove  Road in  Ketchikan. Contrary  to the                                                               
               federal government's position,  the State asserted                                                               
               that it has a Section  4407 easement for the road.                                                               
               This  would   mean  no  environmental   review  is                                                               
               needed.  To ensure  the 4407  issue is  addressed,                                                               
               State brought  a separate  lawsuit on  that issue.                                                               
               The  lawsuits have  been consolidated  and, in  an                                                               
               effort  to end  both  cases, the  USFS issued  the                                                               
               4407  easement just  prior to  the State's  motion                                                               
               for summary judgment on all remaining issues.                                                                    
        o Status:                                                                                                               
             square4 In the environmental group's challenge to the                                                              
               State's  road project,  the  court issued  partial                                                               
               summary  judgment  in  the State's  favor  on  all                                                               
               environmental permitting issues  and dismissed all                                                               
               4407  issues with  prejudice on  a  finding of  no                                                               
               NEPA of NFMA requirements  for these easements. In                                                               
               the State's  companion suit  against the  USFS, on                                                               
               November  9, 2018  the State  filed  a motion  for                                                               
               summary judgment  seeking declaratory  judgment on                                                               
               the   scope   and   requirements  for   the   4407                                                               
               easements.  The USFS  response  is  due after  the                                                               
               federal government  shutdown. Construction  on the                                                               
               road continues while the case proceeds.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. LENHART detailed that "Shelter  Cove" was a road construction                                                               
project   and  the   federal  government   was   first  sued   by                                                               
environmental plaintiffs  trying to  stop the project.  The State                                                               
intervened  as  a   codefendant  on  the  side   of  the  federal                                                               
government.  The  environmental case  has  been  resolved in  the                                                               
favor  of the  federal government  and the  road is  being built;                                                               
however,  one   of  the  arguments   that  was  brought   by  the                                                               
environmental groups  was regarding the State's  "4407 easements"                                                               
that were granted to Alaska  from Congress. The argument from the                                                               
environmental  plaintiffs  is  that   road  construction  on  the                                                               
easements  required  a  full National  Environmental  Policy  Act                                                               
(NEPA)  process  and an  Environmental  Impact  Study (EIS).  The                                                               
State contended that any impact  statement was not needed but the                                                               
federal government  agreed with  the environment  plaintiffs. The                                                               
court  has  dealt with  the  case  in  terms of  the  plaintiffs,                                                               
finding  in  favor  of  the federal  government  on  all  counts;                                                               
however,  because of  the State's  disagreement with  the federal                                                               
government on "440 easements," the  State filed a cross-action on                                                               
the federal government that was  decided in the State's favor but                                                               
continued  action was  taken for  a declaratory  judgement in  an                                                               
attempt to  permanently put  to rest  the remaining  questions on                                                               
all of the other "4407 easements."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:46:05 PM                                                                                                                    
He addressed the  "4407 easements" and explained that  in 2005 in                                                               
the  federal  highway bills,  there  were  19 transportation  and                                                               
utility  easements granted  by Congress  to the  state of  Alaska                                                               
that were  not contingent  on anything. The  problem has  come in                                                               
because  in  2005 the  easements  were  not well  surveyed  legal                                                               
descriptions,  they were  red-lines on  a map.  The work  was not                                                               
properly done to locate for  roadbuilding purposes. When refined,                                                               
the easements  were found  to go through  lakes, over  cliffs, so                                                               
most of  the red-lines were  not accurate for road  building. The                                                               
issue is the  federal government's position has been  if you move                                                               
outside of  the red-line  to relocate the  easement, even  if the                                                               
move is feasible with less  environmental impact, the change is a                                                               
new federal decision  subject to NEPA, an  EIS, fully reviewable,                                                               
and subject  to court action.  The State's argument has  been the                                                               
easement shows a right to go from  "point A to point B" and there                                                               
is  flexibility  for the  State  to  figure  out where  the  best                                                               
alignment.  Once the  alignment and  the permitting  process with                                                               
the Army Corps of Engineers  and other needed federal permits are                                                               
attained, all  the U.S. Forest Service  has a right to  do is the                                                               
administerial  act  of  issuing  an  easement  and  there  is  no                                                               
decision process.  Congress did  go back to  the bill  to clarify                                                               
the intent for the easements;  that is the issue remaining before                                                               
the federal district court in Alaska  and the State is hoping for                                                               
a  favorable  ruling  where the  15  remaining  "4407  easements"                                                               
become a "done deal."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:48:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COGHILL asked what the timeline  is for the ruling on the                                                               
easements.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. LENHART answered  that the briefing should be  done within 30                                                               
days. He  said once  the briefing  is done,  he doubts  the judge                                                               
will hear arguments and suspected that  the case will be ripe for                                                               
a decision within two years.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BIRCH  asked what an  example is  of a "4407  easement." He                                                               
inquired if "Shelter Cove Road" is a "4407 easement."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LENHART answered  yes.  He detailed  that  the title  "4407"                                                               
simply is the section in the  2005 Highway Bill that provided the                                                               
easements.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL noted  U.S. Congressman Don Young  can comment on                                                               
the "4407 easements" as well.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. LENHART referenced the "King Cove Road" matter as follows:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   • King Cove Road:                                                                                                            
        o Assistant Attorney General T. Lenhart.                                                                                
        o Alignment with Feds:                                                                                                  
             square4 Not aligned.                                                                                               
        o Brief description:                                                                                                    
             square4 After attempts under the previous federal                                                                  
               administration to  complete a land  exchange, King                                                               
               Cove and  the U.S. Department of  Interior entered                                                               
               into  a   2017  land   exchange  which   has  been                                                               
               challenged  by environmental  groups. The  purpose                                                               
               of the  land exchange is  to build a  road between                                                               
               the community  of King Cove and  Cold Bay Airport,                                                               
               specifically for emergency  purposes. The State is                                                               
               not  a party  to the  litigation but  will monitor                                                               
               the case closely.                                                                                                
        o Status:                                                                                                               
             square4 On August 24, 2018, the State filed an amicus                                                              
               brief in support  of the briefs filed  by the U.S.                                                               
               Department of  Interior and  the King  Cove Group,                                                               
               seeking to uphold the land  exchange. The case has                                                               
               been fully  briefed, and the parties  are awaiting                                                               
               a decision from the court.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. LENHART detailed that the  State has been litigating the King                                                               
Cove  to Cold  Bay  road through  the  Izembek National  Wildlife                                                               
Refuge for many  years. The 2009 land exchange  between state and                                                               
federal  lands  was  only  subject   to  the  U.S.  Secretary  of                                                               
Interior's approval based  on an EIS, but  former Secretary Jewel                                                               
was against  the road.  An appeal to  the decision  was withdrawn                                                               
because of the  change in federal administrations and  a new land                                                               
exchange was worked  out between the U.S.  Department of Interior                                                               
and  the  King  Cove  Corporation in  2017.  Under  the  National                                                               
Environmental  Policy Act  (NEPA), there  is a  special provision                                                               
that exempts  native corporations  from an  EIS for  federal land                                                               
exchanges, but a lawsuit challenged  the land exchange. The State                                                               
was not party  to the 2017 land exchange, but  the State filed an                                                               
amicus brief  supporting the  land exchange;  that case  has been                                                               
briefed, is ripe  for a decision, and awaits  U.S. District Judge                                                               
Gleason's ruling. Based  on Judge Gleason's ruling,  there is the                                                               
possibility of a circuit court action.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
He explained that  the land exchange itself does  not authorize a                                                               
road,  noting  that  the  process   is  strictly  a  real  estate                                                               
transaction.  Once the  land exchange  is  completed there  would                                                               
have to be  construction permits requested through  the U.S. Army                                                               
Corps of  Engineers. The Alaska Department  of Transportation and                                                               
Public  Facilities  has been  involved  in  identifying the  best                                                               
route and lands sought in  the land exchange. Should approvals be                                                               
granted,  Alaska   will  play  a   key  role  in   designing  and                                                               
constructing the  road which  will ultimately  be turned  over to                                                               
the borough.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:54:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAWASAKI asked  what the  "decision  tree" is  regarding                                                               
whether to be party to litigation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LENHART  replied  that  his  experience  has  been  to  have                                                               
discussions with  the active litigants, generally  the State gets                                                               
invited. The decision ultimately  goes to the lieutenant governor                                                               
or the governor.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BEAUSANG added that requirements  must be met to intervein in                                                               
a  case  where  a  certain   legal  standing  is  needed  whereas                                                               
appearing  as  an  "amicus"  is  easier  to  weigh  in.  Possible                                                               
consideration to not  being a party is  when participation causes                                                               
a disruption  or complication  to the  party being  supported. If                                                               
the  State  intervenes as  a  party  then  the State  would  have                                                               
certain legal rights  to weigh in substantively,  rights that are                                                               
not available when an amicus brief is filed.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:57:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI  asked if there  are other states  with Roadless                                                               
Rule problems  that have come  forward with amicus  brief filings                                                               
to help a position or precedent.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. LENHART answered that Wyoming has  been a lead state for some                                                               
time in challenging the Roadless  Rule. Wyoming had an injunction                                                               
against the  Roadless Rule  that the State  filed an  "amicus" in                                                               
their state.  Colorado has a  state-specific Roadless  Rule which                                                               
is what  the State is  now engaged  in doing; however,  the State                                                               
has never had an amicus filing by other attorney generals.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BEAUSANG addressed the  "Eastern Interior Resource Management                                                               
Plan" as follows:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
   • Eastern Interior Resource Management Plan (EIRMP) Adopted                                                                  
     by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM):                                                                                    
        o Assistant Attorney General A. Nelson.                                                                                 
        o Alignment with Feds:                                                                                                  
             square4 Not aligned.                                                                                               
        o Brief description:                                                                                                    
             square4 The EIRMP, adopted January 6, 2017, recommends                                                             
               unjustified  mineral   closures  and  conservation                                                               
               designations  that  are inconsistent  with  Alaska                                                               
               National Interest Lands  Conservation Act (ANILCA)                                                               
               and Federal Land  Policy Management Act's multiple                                                               
               use mandate.  The EIRMP also fails  to provide for                                                               
               lifting outdated  Alaska Native  Claims Settlement                                                               
               Act   (ANCSA)   "d-1"   withdrawals   unless   new                                                               
               conservation withdrawals are implemented.                                                                        
        o Status:                                                                                                               
             square4 The Government Accountability Office determined                                                            
               in November  2017 that the  EIRMP is a  rule under                                                               
               the  Congressional Review  Act (CRA),  which means                                                               
               Congress  has  60  session   days  to  repeal  it;                                                               
               however,  BLM  has  not   submitted  the  Plan  to                                                               
               Congress as  required by the Act  and it's unclear                                                               
               whether the  60-day period has already  run or has                                                               
               yet  to  begin.  The State  continues  to  monitor                                                               
               congressional and  agency action on the  issue and                                                               
               evaluate    options,   including    administrative                                                               
               action,  litigation, or  working with  Congress to                                                               
               repeal it.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BEAUSANG said  BLM's EIRMP covers an area  in eastern Alaska,                                                               
specifically the Fortymile  River region that is  high in mineral                                                               
potential. The  State will watch  BLM's recommendations  from the                                                               
EIRMP and consider taking litigation action.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:00:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COGHILL asked him to  confirm that within the EIRMP there                                                               
are   areas  of   environmental   concern  that   if  the   "d-1"                                                               
restrictions are not lifted the  outcome is a de facto wilderness                                                               
taking.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. BEAUSANG answered  that Senator Coghill is  exactly right. He                                                               
emphasized that  the plan is  a recommendation at this  point. He                                                               
opined that what  the BLM is trying to do  is rather than lifting                                                               
the withdrawals  they are almost  creating a  "super conservation                                                               
system" that would really impact  development or natural resource                                                               
management.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He addressed "Lands into Trust" as follows:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   • Lands into Trust:                                                                                                          
        o Assistant Attorney General A. Nelson.                                                                                 
        o Alignment with Feds:                                                                                                  
             square4 Uncertain.                                                                                                 
        o Brief description:                                                                                                    
             square4 After the district court in Akiachak v.                                                                    
               Department  of Interior  (DOI) found  in favor  of                                                               
               plaintiffs, DOI changed  its regulations to permit                                                               
               lands in  Alaska to  be taken  into trust.  In the                                                               
               summer   of  2018,   the  Department   of  Justice                                                               
               rescinded  the Solicitor's  Opinion  on which  the                                                               
               DOI  relied to  change  its  regulations. DOI  has                                                               
               stated it  will not process any  new applications,                                                               
               but  federal  representatives   have  stated  that                                                               
               pending   applications   would  continue   to   be                                                               
               processed.                                                                                                       
        o Status:                                                                                                               
             square4 The State commented on six applications before                                                             
               the DOI  embarked on the new  rulemaking process--                                                               
               one from the Craig  Tribal Association, three from                                                               
               the  Central  Council  Tlingit  and  Haida  Indian                                                               
               Tribes   of  Alaska,   one   from  the   Ninilchik                                                               
               Traditional  Council,  and  one  from  the  Native                                                               
               Village  of  Fort  Yukon.  The  Bureau  of  Indian                                                               
               Affairs (BIA)  has granted the  Craig application,                                                               
               but has  not acted on the  other applications. The                                                               
               BIA  held public  meetings and  consultations with                                                               
               tribes  throughout  the  State.  Written  comments                                                               
               were due by January 25, 2019.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BEAUSANG explained that for  a long time, until the "Akiachak                                                               
litigation," the  position of  DOI in  regulation was  that there                                                               
was an Alaska  exemption for taking lands into  trust, that's not                                                               
the course that  was chosen for Alaska through  the Alaska Native                                                               
Claims Settlement Act  (ANCSA). The course was not  to follow the                                                               
reservation  system that  was adopted  in the  Lower 48  and that                                                               
seemed  clear  to  everyone  until  the  district  court  took  a                                                               
different view in the "Akiachak  litigation" and subsequently the                                                               
DOI then adopted that view,  adopted regulations, and adopted the                                                               
Solicitor's Opinion  which justified  the district  court's legal                                                               
reasoning that taking lands into trust was allowed in Alaska.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
He detailed  that the  DOI rescinded  the Solicitor's  Opinion in                                                               
the 2018 and  invited comment on the next steps  for taking lands                                                               
into trust  in Alaska.  In January 2019  the State  submitted its                                                               
comment  letter that  urged the  DOI  to revert  to its  position                                                               
which the State thinks is  clearly the obvious result under ANCSA                                                               
that lands  should not be taken  into trust, there should  not be                                                               
Indian  country with  one  exception under  ANCSA.  The State  is                                                               
waiting  to  see what  the  DOI  is going  to  do  and that  will                                                               
determine the State's next steps.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:03:03 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COGHILL  noted that  DOI made a  proposal and  asked what                                                               
their  expected  timeline will  be  for  comment and  what  their                                                               
expected decision points are.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BEAUSANG replied  that the  comment deadline  ends later  in                                                               
March and there is no set deadline for DOI to make its decision.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL opined  that he  finds  the process  troublesome                                                               
where  the DOI  puts  a  deadline on  the  State,  but the  DOI's                                                               
decision-making process has "no cap."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL  opined  that  ANCSA  was the  last  gasp  of  the                                                               
"termination era" in federal Indian  law and asked if the State's                                                               
executive  branch's position  is that  nothing in  federal Indian                                                               
law has changed applicably to Alaska since then.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BEAUSANG  specified that the  State's position is  that ANCSA                                                               
settled native  claims and charted a  new course to not  have the                                                               
reservation system,  to not have  Indian country as  was followed                                                               
in  the  Lower 48;  however,  the  district court  in  "Akiachak"                                                               
determined that ANCSA  did not resolve that issue  and that lands                                                               
could still be  taken into trust that results  in Indian country.                                                               
The State's position is that  taking lands into trust was settled                                                               
with ANCSA.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:05:35 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL opined that the  question of the reservation system                                                               
versus whether tribes may have land  they own taken into trust is                                                               
a different question.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BIRCH asked him to  explain the consequences and meaning of                                                               
"taking lands into trust."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BEAUSANG  explained that  there  are  229 native  tribes  in                                                               
Alaska with land  holdings that are often  not contiguous. Taking                                                               
lands into trust  would create Indian country  which would impact                                                               
the  state's  ability  to  have  control  over  natural  resource                                                               
management and environmental regulation.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BISHOP  opined that  for a native  tribe to  convert land                                                               
into trust is a "high bar."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BEAUSANG  answered  that   there  are  several  applications                                                               
pending with one that may have  been accepted by DOI. He conceded                                                               
that he  is not  familiar with  the process  for making  the land                                                               
conversion decisions.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:07:51 PM                                                                                                                    
He addressed the "ANWR Boundary IBLA Appeal" as follows:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   • Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) Boundary Interior                                                                   
     Board of Land Appeals (IBLA) Appeal:                                                                                       
        o Assistant Attorney Generals:                                                                                          
             square4 M. Schechter,                                                                                              
             square4 A. Brown.                                                                                                  
        o Alignment with Feds:                                                                                                  
             square4 Not aligned.                                                                                               
        o Brief description:                                                                                                    
             square4 BLM denied the State's request for conveyance of                                                           
               20,000 acres, based on dispute over western                                                                      
               boundary of ANWR. The State also objected to a                                                                   
               survey  plat of  the  area directly  south of  the                                                               
               area requested for conveyance.                                                                                   
        o Status:                                                                                                               
             square4 IBLA denied BLM's motion to dismiss and has                                                                
               consolidated  the  State's two  appeals.  Briefing                                                               
               has  been completed  and the  case is  now pending                                                               
               with  the  IBLA,  which  has  a  significant  case                                                               
               backlog  and  is  unlikely  to  issue  a  decision                                                               
               before late 2019 at the earliest.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BEAUSANG  said  ANWR's  northwestern  boundary  has  been  a                                                               
longstanding dispute  between Alaska and the  federal government.                                                               
The  boundary in  question is  the  western bank  of the  Canning                                                               
River, a position that the state  agrees with. BLM's view is that                                                               
the river  moved, and  that the boundary  line runs  through many                                                               
miles of open tundra. The land  in question is 20,000 acres, land                                                               
that has the  potential for oil and gas  development and staging.                                                               
The case  has been briefed before  the IBLA, but the  board has a                                                               
track record of not issuing prompt decisions.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BIRCH noted that the  Senate passed a resolution earlier in                                                               
the  day  encouraging  an  ANWR  lease  sale.  He  asked  if  the                                                               
litigation is tied to the ANWR lease sale.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BEAUSANG   answered  that  he   does  believe  there   is  a                                                               
relationship. He  opined that however the  litigation is resolved                                                               
the outcome will not impact the lease sale.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:10:44 PM                                                                                                                    
He addressed the "ANWR Section 1002" matter as follow:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
   • ANWR Section 1002:                                                                                                         
        o Assistant Attorney General M. Schechter.                                                                              
        o Alignment with Feds:                                                                                                  
             square4 Aligned.                                                                                                   
        o Brief description:                                                                                                    
             square4 The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, Pub. L. 115-                                                            
               97,  opened the  ANWR  1002 area  to  oil and  gas                                                               
               exploration and leasing.                                                                                         
        o Status:                                                                                                               
             square4 The Draft EIS is out for public comment. State                                                             
               agencies are  to submit comments on  the Draft EIS                                                               
               to  the state  Office  of  Project Management  and                                                               
               Permitting (OPMP) by January  24. OPMP will submit                                                               
               the State's comment letter to  BLM by Monday, Feb.                                                               
               11 on behalf of the State.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He explained  that "Section 1002"  was something talked  about in                                                               
the Senate resolution.  Section 1002 is the area of  ANWR that is                                                               
open for leasing  out of the Tax  Cuts and Jobs Act  of 2017. The                                                               
Draft EIS  is necessary before  leases can go forward.  Under the                                                               
Act, the  federal government  is required to  have the  two lease                                                               
sales within ten years and 50  percent of the revenues will go to                                                               
the state of Alaska.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BIRCH  specified that  the deadline  for public  comment is                                                               
9:59 p.m. on Wednesday, March 13.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:12:19 PM                                                                                                                    
EMMA  POKON, Assistant  Attorney General,  Environmental Section,                                                               
Alaska Department  of Law, Juneau,  Alaska, said the  three cases                                                               
she will  address applies to nationally  applicable Environmental                                                               
Protection Agency  (EPA) regulations,  noting the  rules applying                                                               
to  Alaska  are  being  reevaluated   due  to  prompting  from  a                                                               
presidential   executive  order.   Alignment  with   the  federal                                                               
government is dependent on the outcome of the rulemakings.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
She addressed  the "2017 Regional Haze  State Implementation Plan                                                               
Rule" as follows:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
   • 2017 Regional Haze State Implementation Plan Rule:                                                                         
       o State v. EPA; Texas v. EPA (D.C. Dir., 17-1074).                                                                       
        o Assistant Attorney General S. Mulder.                                                                                 
        o Alignment with Feds:                                                                                                  
             square4 Uncertain.                                                                                                 
        o Brief description:                                                                                                    
             square4 The State, along with North Dakota, Texas, and                                                             
               Arkansas, challenged the  2017 Regional Haze State                                                               
               Implementation    Plan    Rule,   which    imposed                                                               
               quantification  requirements on  international air                                                               
               emission contributions to  regional haze affecting                                                               
               national parks and wilderness  areas. The State is                                                               
               concerned      about     having      international                                                               
               contributions  to   haze,  that  are   beyond  the                                                               
               State's  control, count  against Alaska  and other                                                               
               states.  The   State  also  objects  to   the  EPA                                                               
               shifting   its   modeling   responsibilities   and                                                               
               modeling costs to Alaska.                                                                                        
        o Status:                                                                                                               
             square4 At the appellate court level. Briefing is                                                                  
               currently on  hold, while EPA revisits  aspects of                                                               
               the rule and engages in a new rulemaking process.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
She specified that the 2017 rule  was a requirement change in how                                                               
visibility  is improved  around Class  I areas.  Alaska has  four                                                               
Class I  areas, three  are in  remote islands  and the  fourth is                                                               
Denali National Park.  Regional haze sources can  be from natural                                                               
and human sources;  for example, the 2012  Consent Decree between                                                               
Golden  Valley  Electric  Association   (GVEA)  and  the  federal                                                               
government required pollution controls to  be put on GVEA's Healy                                                               
power plant or to shut down Healy  Unit 1 by 2024 due to concerns                                                               
over contributions to regional haze  close to Denali Nation Park.                                                               
Alaska  also has  concerns over  haze contributions  from "Arctic                                                               
haze" that  originates from  smelter plants  in Siberia  and dust                                                               
storms   from   the  Mongolia   and   China   deserts.  The   EPA                                                               
traditionally  did not  expect Alaska  to address  "Arctic haze,"                                                               
but  the 2017  rule caused  the EPA  to require  Alaska to  use a                                                               
scientifically valid methodology with  data to prove and quantify                                                               
the  "Arctic haze"  contribution in  order for  the state  to not                                                               
reduce  haze sources  within  the state.  The  State thinks  that                                                               
international modeling  of air currents is  an EPA responsibility                                                               
under the  statute, so  the state challenged  the 2017  rule. The                                                               
briefing on the case is on hold  due to a revaluation of the 2017                                                               
rule by the  EPA. The State expects additional  guidance from the                                                               
EPA by spring  2019, including a modeling platform  and a revised                                                               
rule.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:16:33 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. POKON addressed the "Clean Power Plan" as follows:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
   • Clean Power Plan:                                                                                                          
        o 40 C.F.R. 60.5700-.5820.                                                                                              
        o Assistant Attorney General S. Mulder.                                                                                 
        o Alignment with Feds:                                                                                                  
             square4 Uncertain.                                                                                                 
        o Brief description:                                                                                                    
             square4 The Clean Power Plan establishes mandatory                                                                 
               "goals"   for  reducing   carbon  emissions   from                                                               
               certain coal  and natural gas fired  power plants.                                                               
               The EPA excluded Alaska and  Hawaii from the final                                                               
               rule,  but  the  EPA  indicated  that  they  would                                                               
               likely   include  Alaska   in  the   future  after                                                               
               accruing more evidence.                                                                                          
        o Status:                                                                                                               
             square4 Other states sued challenging the rule. President                                                          
               Trump  signed an  executive order  calling on  the                                                               
               EPA to  review the  Clean Power  Plan and  end the                                                               
               moratorium on  coal mining  on federal  lands. The                                                               
               EPA  proposed to  repeal the  Clean Power  Plan in                                                               
               October  2017 and  the EPA  has not  made a  final                                                               
               decision. On  August 21,  2018, the  EPA announced                                                               
               it is  proposing a new rule,  the Affordable Clean                                                               
               Energy rule  ("ACE"), to  replace the  Clean Power                                                               
               Plan.  The comment  period closed  on October  30,                                                               
               2018. The State is  awaiting the EPA's decision on                                                               
               the rulemaking.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. POKON detailed  that the EPA based their plan  on the ability                                                               
to access  the "interstate interconnected transmission  grid" for                                                               
reducing  carbon emissions  by accessing  renewables and  natural                                                               
gas sources rather  than from coal generation.  The State pointed                                                               
out that Alaska was not  connected to the interstate transmission                                                               
grid but noted that Alaska  has an instate transmission grid with                                                               
constraints. The  EPA rule effectively assumed  that Alaska would                                                               
be   able  to   replace  Healy   generation  with   Bradley  Lake                                                               
hydropower;  however,  challenges  exist  with  transmission  and                                                               
reliability. The  EPA ultimately  exempted Alaska from  the rule,                                                               
but  the  agency  indicated  that the  issue  may  be  revisited.                                                               
Several states  challenged the rule  in court, but the  State did                                                               
not join  in the  litigation because Alaska  was not  involved in                                                               
the final  rule. The State is  watching the case because  the EPA                                                               
said  they  might come  back  and  the  rule exhibits  a  broader                                                               
approach by the agency regarding  the Clean Air Act where winners                                                               
and losers are  chosen within the industry,  a dramatic departure                                                               
in how the agency exercises its authority.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL  noted  that  he had  read  briefs  that  showed                                                               
constitutional  questions on  the  EPA's "Clean  Power Plan"  and                                                               
their  new  method  of  management  rather  than  addressing  air                                                               
quality issues.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  POKON explained  that the  case  is being  held in  abeyance                                                               
pending the outcome  of a new rulemaking. The EPA  has proposed a                                                               
new  rule  called,  "The  Affordable   Clean  Energy  Rule."  The                                                               
proposed rule takes a more  traditional approach in using current                                                               
power  generation more  efficiently, including  coal plants.  The                                                               
comment period  on the proposed  plan closed in October  2018 and                                                               
the State is waiting to see what comes out as a final rule.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:19:32 PM                                                                                                                    
She addressed the "Waters of the U.S. Rule" as follows:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   • Waters of the U.S. (WOTUS) Rule:                                                                                           
        o North Dakota v. EPA:                                                                                                  
             square4 North Dakota District Court;                                                                               
             square4 3:15-cv-00059.                                                                                             
        o Assistant Attorney General E. Pokon.                                                                                  
        o Alignment with Feds:                                                                                                  
             square4 Uncertain.                                                                                                 
        o Brief description:                                                                                                    
             square4 State joined a coalition of 12 states challenging                                                          
               the 2015  "waters of the  U.S." rule.  Among other                                                               
               things,  the 2015  rule expands  what falls  under                                                               
               federal jurisdiction by  automatically sweeping up                                                               
               "adjacent"  or "neighboring"  waters and  wetlands                                                               
               within certain  geographical limits  to downstream                                                               
               waters already covered by federal law.                                                                           
        o Status:                                                                                                               
             square4 The district court action is currently proceeding                                                          
               in North Dakota Federal  District Court. The WOTUS                                                               
               rule  has  been stayed  by  the  court as  to  the                                                               
               states that  are a party  to this  case, including                                                               
               Alaska.  Summary  judgment briefing  is  complete.                                                               
               The federal government is  no longer defending the                                                               
               merits  of  the   2015  rule,  though  intervening                                                               
               environmental  groups are.  Oral argument  has not                                                               
               been scheduled.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
               On  August  16, 2018,  a  federal  judge in  South                                                               
               Carolina   enjoined  the   Trump  administration's                                                               
               order  suspending the  rule;  that court  decision                                                               
               resulted in  the WOTUS rule going  into effect for                                                               
               26  states but  does not  affect the  North Dakota                                                               
               court's stay.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
               Meanwhile the federal  rulemaking process proceeds                                                               
               to withdraw or replace the  rule. EPA and the U.S.                                                               
               Army Corps of  Engineers released a prepublication                                                               
               version of a revised rule  in December 2018. A 60-                                                               
               day public  comment period will run  from the date                                                               
               the  formal notice  is  published  in the  federal                                                               
               register.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  POKON  explained  that  the  Clean  Water  Act  applies  its                                                               
regulatory programs  to navigable waters and  the statute defines                                                               
"navigable  waters" as,  "Waters of  the United  States including                                                               
the  territorial  seas."  The "navigable  waters"  definition  is                                                               
notoriously  ambiguous with  a long  history of  the EPA  and the                                                               
U.S.  Army  Corps of  Engineers  defining  the term  and  issuing                                                               
various  regulations for  proving further  guidance. The  rule is                                                               
important for  Alaska because  it determines  where a  project is                                                               
subject  to federal  or state  permitting in  terms of  impacting                                                               
water. The rule reflected an  even broader approach than what the                                                               
EPA was taking historically; for  example, the federal government                                                               
could assert its  jurisdiction over an isolated  water body after                                                               
a single  rainstorm or  if a  fixed setback  in within  a certain                                                               
number  of   feet.  The  summary  judgement   briefing  has  been                                                               
completed in  the lawsuit and  the State  is waiting for  an oral                                                               
argument  date; however,  the situation  is peculiar  because the                                                               
environmental  interveners  are  defending   the  case,  not  the                                                               
federal government.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:21:56 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BIRCH  noted that in January  several legislators including                                                               
himself, Senator Giessel, and Senator  Coghill signed a letter to                                                               
Attorney  General Clarkson  questioning  the  EPA's authority  to                                                               
force  the state  of Alaska  to adopt  a process  for designating                                                               
"Tier 3 Waters"  which is deemed to be  a restrictive designation                                                               
that gave rise to concerns about  what is actually in the state's                                                               
best interest.  He asked if there  has been an assessment  of the                                                               
"Tier 3" designation.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. POKON  explained that  the Tier 3  Waters program  is another                                                               
Clean  Water Act  issue. Another  assistant  attorney general  is                                                               
actively  looking at  the Tier  3 designation.  There is  pending                                                               
legislation that will clarify what  the state of Alaska's process                                                               
would or would  not be and the pending result  will dictate where                                                               
the department proceeds.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL remarked  that  the  designation is,  "basically                                                               
anything that is wet."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:23:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BEAUSANG  said he  will address the  "fish and  game" matter,                                                               
starting with the "NPS and USFWS  Rules on Management of Fish and                                                               
Game" as follows:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
   • NPS and USFWS Rules on Management of Fish and Game:                                                                        
        o State v. Zinke:                                                                                                       
             square4 3:17-cv-00013.                                                                                             
        o Assistant Attorney Generals:                                                                                          
             square4 C. Brooking,                                                                                               
             square4 J. Alloway.                                                                                                
        o Alignment with Feds:                                                                                                  
             square4 Not aligned.                                                                                               
        o Brief description:                                                                                                    
             square4 The State is challenging regulations adopted by                                                            
               the National Park  Service (NPS) affecting hunting                                                               
               on   preserve   lands    throughout   Alaska   and                                                               
               regulations adopted by the  U.S. Fish and Wildlife                                                               
               Service (USFWS)  restricting hunting on  the Kenai                                                               
               National Wildlife  Refuge (NWR). Three  cases were                                                               
               filed  and   consolidated.  The   NPS  regulations                                                               
               preempted    state    management   of    wildlife,                                                               
               prohibited  several means  of take  for predators,                                                               
               and  changed public  participation procedures  for                                                               
               hunting   and   fishing    closures.   The   USFWS                                                               
               regulations  prohibit  certain  activities  within                                                               
               the Kenai  NWR and the  State is objecting  to the                                                               
               prohibition on  taking brown  bears at  black bear                                                               
               baiting  stations,  a  practice  that  is  allowed                                                               
               under state regulations.                                                                                         
        o Status:                                                                                                               
             square4 In July 2017, NPS and USFWS were directed by the                                                           
               Acting Assistant  Secretary for Fish  and Wildlife                                                               
               and  Parks to  initiate  rulemaking procedures  to                                                               
               reconsider   their  rules.   In  June   2018,  NPS                                                               
               published a proposed rule  that would reverse much                                                               
               of  the 2015  rule challenged  in the  litigation,                                                               
               and  the comment  period closed  October 5,  2018.                                                               
               USFWS has  not published a proposed  new rule. The                                                               
               litigation  has  been  stayed for  several  months                                                               
               pending  possible   rulemaking  that   might  moot                                                               
               portions of  the lawsuit. The  case is  stayed for                                                               
               30  days as  a result  of  the federal  government                                                               
               shutdown.  A status  report  was  scheduled to  be                                                               
               filed on February 6, 2019.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BEAUSANG  summarized that the  federal government  was trying                                                               
to,  under the  Alaska National  Interest Lands  Conservation Act                                                               
(ANILCA), take  over primary  game management  which is  not what                                                               
ANILCA is about  at all. The new federal  administration seems to                                                               
be  agreeing with  the State's  argument because  they have  been                                                               
backtracking quite a bit. The litigation  is on hold, the NPS has                                                               
proposed a  new rule which  reverses their previous  proposal and                                                               
the State  is waiting for  the USFWS  to take a  similar approach                                                               
with a  new rule  as well  by taking  back the  federal overreach                                                               
adopted by the prior administration.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:25:23 PM                                                                                                                    
He  addressed  "Congressional  Review  Act  Resolution  on  USFWS                                                               
Rules" as follows:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
   • Congressional Review Act Resolution on USFWS Rules:                                                                        
        o Center for Biological Diversity v. Zinke:                                                                             
             square4 3:17-cv-00091.                                                                                             
        o Assistant Attorney Generals:                                                                                          
             square4 C. Brooking,                                                                                               
             square4 J. Alloway.                                                                                                
        o Alignment with Feds:                                                                                                  
             square4 Generally aligned.                                                                                         
        o Brief description:                                                                                                    
             square4 The Center for Biological Diversity filed a                                                                
               lawsuit  to challenge  Pub.  L.  115-20 which  was                                                               
               adopted  under   the  rules  established   in  the                                                               
               Congressional  Review Act  (CRA).  Pub. L.  115-20                                                               
               revoked  a rule  adopted by  the USFWS  that would                                                               
               have  restricted   hunting  and   affected  refuge                                                               
               closure  procedures  on   all  refuges  throughout                                                               
               Alaska. The  State and other groups  intervened on                                                               
               behalf  of  the  federal defendants.  Because  the                                                               
               plaintiffs  are challenging  the constitutionality                                                               
               of the  CRA, this case could  impact prior actions                                                               
               taken  by Congress  and  the  President under  the                                                               
               CRA.                                                                                                             
        o Status:                                                                                                               
             square4 The district court dismissed the litigation in                                                             
               June 2018.  In August 2018, plaintiff  appealed to                                                               
               the Ninth  Circuit. Appellant's opening  brief was                                                               
               filed.   Briefing   by  federal   defendants   and                                                               
               intervenors has  been extended as a  result of the                                                               
               federal  government  shutdown. Oral  argument  has                                                               
               not yet been scheduled.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KAWASAKI asked  why  the State  filed  as an  intervener                                                               
versus filing an amicus brief.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. BEAUSANG  replied that he was  not privy to the  decision but                                                               
could provide some guesses. He  explained that case disruption or                                                               
doing something that is not in  the interest of the side that the                                                               
State is  intervening on would not  be an issue. The  State has a                                                               
very important  point to make  that probably would not  have been                                                               
made by  the federal government  and that  is that Alaska  is the                                                               
primary manager of  game in the state and  the federal government                                                               
has not always  expressed it as clearly and plainly  as the State                                                               
thinks it  should. The  State wanted  to be a  party and  to make                                                               
sure that  the court  was aware  that Alaska has  a stake  in the                                                               
case as the primary manager of  game where the state's rights are                                                               
being  impacted   substantively  in   addition  to   the  federal                                                               
government defending its statute.  The decision probably was that                                                               
it is much better  to be a party to the  case with the previously                                                               
noted interest  as opposed to  just expressing a view  through an                                                               
amicus brief.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:28:42 PM                                                                                                                    
He addressed the "Salmon Fishery Management Plan" as follows:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
   • Salmon Fishery Management Plan:                                                                                            
        o United Cook Inlet Drift Association v. National Marine                                                                
          Fisheries Service:                                                                                                    
             square4 Alaska intervened in support of defendants;                                                                
             square4 3:13-cv-0104.                                                                                              
        o Assistant Attorney General B. Meyen.                                                                                  
        o Alignment with Feds:                                                                                                  
             square4 Aligned.                                                                                                   
        o Brief description:                                                                                                    
             square4 United Cook Inlet Drift Association (UCIDA)                                                                
               challenged  Amendment  12  to the  Salmon  Fishery                                                               
               Management  Plan  in  Alaska that  ensured  Alaska                                                               
               retained full authority  over salmon management in                                                               
               three  historical  areas   beyond  the  three-mile                                                               
               limit, as it has since statehood.                                                                                
        o Status:                                                                                                               
             square4 The court of appeals found in favor of the                                                                 
               plaintiffs,   reversing   the   district   court's                                                               
               decision.  The  U.S.   Supreme  Court  denied  the                                                               
               State's request for review  of the Ninth Circuit's                                                               
               decision.   The   district  court   has   retained                                                               
               jurisdiction to  oversee adoption  of a  new plan,                                                               
               and   there  continues   to  be   litigation  over                                                               
               attorneys'   fees.  The   North  Pacific   Fishery                                                               
               Management Council  continues to work  through the                                                               
               issues and  will likely take a  while for adoption                                                               
               of any final management measures.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BEAUSANG  summarized that the  State was  on the side  of the                                                               
federal  government.  The  case  was  brought  up  by  commercial                                                               
fisherman who were  unhappy that the fishery  management plan for                                                               
salmon fisheries in Alaska did  not include the federal waters of                                                               
Cook  Inlet. The  fisheries  within federal  waters  of the  Cook                                                               
Inlet have  always been  managed exclusively  by the  state since                                                               
statehood.  The commercial  fishermen in  the case  believed that                                                               
the fisheries should  be managed by the  federal government under                                                               
the Magnuson-Stevens Act,  even though that had  never been done.                                                               
The  Ninth  Circuit  Court's  decision  required  a  new  fishery                                                               
management  plan  include  Cook  Inlet   as  well  as  two  other                                                               
historical  fisheries  near  the  Copper River  and  False  Pass,                                                               
fisheries that have  always been managed by the  state. The North                                                               
Pacific Fishery  Management Council decided to  proceed with Cook                                                               
Inlet first, a committee was  formed that included the plaintiffs                                                               
in   the   case  as   well   as   other  stakeholders   to   make                                                               
recommendations to  the council. A  draft plan by the  council is                                                               
not expected for a year or more.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:31:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD remarked  that the action goes against  a lot of                                                               
the normal  bane a lot  of Alaskans  have for federal  control of                                                               
state  resources. She  asked why  the commercial  fishermen would                                                               
want federal control.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. BEAUSANG presumed that the  fishermen believed that the Board                                                               
of  Fisheries  was not  managing  the  resource  as it  would  be                                                               
managed under the Magnuson-Stevens Act.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
He addressed the "Critical Habitat" case as follows:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
   • Critical Habitat:                                                                                                          
        o Alabama v. National Marine Fisheries Service:                                                                         
             square4 Alabama District Court;                                                                                    
             square4 1:16-CV-00593.                                                                                             
        o Assistant Attorney General B. Meyen.                                                                                  
        o Alignment with Feds:                                                                                                  
             square4 Uncertain.                                                                                                 
        o Brief description:                                                                                                    
             square4 The State joined 17 other states to challenge two                                                          
               new  rules regarding  the designation  of critical                                                               
               habitat. The  new rules  greatly expand  the types                                                               
               of areas that can  be designated, without much, if                                                               
               any, connection  to the presence of  the protected                                                               
               species.  The  Attorney   General  also  joined  a                                                               
               letter  with   several  other   attorneys  general                                                               
               asking  the new  federal administration  to review                                                               
               and withdraw these rules.                                                                                        
        o Status:                                                                                                               
             square4 On March 14, 2018, settlement was reached whereby                                                          
               plaintiff  states   dismissed  the   case  without                                                               
               prejudice  and the  federal  government agreed  to                                                               
               submit revised rules. Revised  rules have now been                                                               
               proposed,  and   the  comment  period   closed  in                                                               
               December. We  are now awaiting  a decision  on the                                                               
               proposed rule.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
He detailed  that the State filed  the case with 17  other states                                                               
challenging rules under the Endangered  Species Act that expanded                                                               
the ability  of the National  Marine Fisheries Service  (NMFS) to                                                               
designate critical  habitat even if a  species did not live  in a                                                               
specified  area  and the  land  in  the  specified area  did  not                                                               
possess  the features  that  would enable  the  species to  live.                                                               
Alaska  has  been  down  the  road  before  regarding  endangered                                                               
species  with  the  federal  government  where  huge  areas  were                                                               
designated as critical habitat. In  2018 a settlement was reached                                                               
where the federal government agreed  to submit revised rules, the                                                               
comment  period has  closed, and  the  State is  waiting for  the                                                               
rules to be finalized.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:34:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.   BEAUSANG   addressed   the   "Comprehensive   Environmental                                                               
Response, Compensation,  and Liability  Act Hard Rock  Mining" as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   • Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and                                                                    
     Liability Act (CERCLA) Hard Rock Mining:                                                                                   
        o Idaho Conservation League v. Pruitt:                                                                                  
             square4 D.C. Circuit Court;                                                                                        
             square4 18-1141.                                                                                                   
        o Assistant Attorney General A. Brown.                                                                                  
        o Alignment with Feds:                                                                                                  
             square4 Aligned.                                                                                                   
        o Brief description:                                                                                                    
             square4 The State intervened with 13 other states in a                                                             
               lawsuit concerning the EPA  decision not to impose                                                               
               a  federal  requirement for  financial  assurances                                                               
               under  the  CERCLA on  hard  rock  mines. The  EPA                                                               
               recognized  that  states,  such  as  Alaska,  have                                                               
               robust    financial    bonding   and    regulatory                                                               
               requirements in place  to protect the environment,                                                               
               making   a    federal   requirement   unnecessary.                                                               
               Environmental groups sued  the EPA, asserting that                                                               
               it  must  adopt   regulations  imposing  financial                                                               
               assurances on hard rock mines.                                                                                   
        o Status:                                                                                                               
             square4 The State's intervention was accepted at the                                                               
               appellate court  level. Briefing was  completed in                                                               
               December  2018. Oral  argument  has  not yet  been                                                               
               scheduled.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He summarized  that the EPA  was compelled through  litigation to                                                               
adopt   rules   for   financial  responsibility   for   hazardous                                                               
substances  through  CERCLA.  Hard  rock  mining  was  the  first                                                               
industry  class chosen  to adopt  the new  rules and  states like                                                               
Alaska  were  concerned  that the  rules  would  be  duplicative,                                                               
burdensome,  and  "one  sized"  that  would  preempt  unique  and                                                               
adaptive  state rules  that have  been  working successfully  for                                                               
some time.  In December 2017  the EPA withdrew its  proposed rule                                                               
and was subsequently sued, Alaska  and 13 other states intervened                                                               
to defend the EPA's decision.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:35:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  BEAUSANG   addressed  the  "Reversal  of   Ban  on  Offshore                                                               
Development" case as follows:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
   • Reversal of Ban on Offshore Development:                                                                                   
        o League of Conservation Voters v. Trump:                                                                               
             square4 3:17-cv-00101.                                                                                             
        o Assistant Attorney General J. Douglas.                                                                                
        o Alignment with Feds:                                                                                                  
             square4 Aligned.                                                                                                   
        o Brief description:                                                                                                    
             square4 Before leaving office, former President Obama                                                              
               issued  an  order  pursuant   to  the  1953  Outer                                                               
               Continental Shelf  Lands Act  indefinitely banning                                                               
               all leases  in certain off-shore  areas, including                                                               
               large portions  of the Chukchi and  Beaufort Seas.                                                               
               President   Trump   issued  an   executive   order                                                               
               rescinding the ban,  and environmental groups have                                                               
               challenged the  plan. The  Bureau of  Ocean Energy                                                               
               Management (BOEM)  is gathering comments on  a new                                                               
               proposed five-year  National Offshore Oil  and Gas                                                               
               Leasing  Program, for  years 2019-2024.  The State                                                               
               intervened in a lawsuit  to support and defend the                                                               
               President's executive order.                                                                                     
        o Status:                                                                                                               
             square4 At the district court level. The plaintiffs filed                                                          
               a  motion for  summary judgment  on June  8, 2018,                                                               
               and  the State  filed its  own motion  for summary                                                               
               judgment and an  opposition to plaintiff's motion.                                                               
               Briefing  was  completed,  and oral  argument  was                                                               
               held on  November 9, 2018.  The State  is awaiting                                                               
               the court's decision.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
He  summarized that  the case  occurred  on the  twilight of  the                                                               
Obama Administration  where President  Obama issued  an executive                                                               
order  withdrawing large  portions  of the  Chukchi and  Beaufort                                                               
seas from  oil and  gas leasing;  shortly after,  President Trump                                                               
issued an  executive order reversing President  Obama's decision.                                                               
The League of Conservation Voters  sued and argued that under the                                                               
Outer  Continental  Shelf Lands  Act  when  a president  acts  to                                                               
withdraw  the  areas  from  leasing, the  decision  can  only  be                                                               
reversed  by an  act  of Congress.  The  Outer Continental  Shelf                                                               
Lands Act  allows land  withdrawals from  leasing, "from  time to                                                               
time"  and  the   State  believes  the  language   in  the  Outer                                                               
Continental  Shelf   Lands  Act   allows  for  decisions   to  be                                                               
revisited.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BIRCH asked if the  argument on equity with the continental                                                               
shelf leasing in the Gulf of Mexico "holds water."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. BEAUSANG  specified that the  case defends  President Trump's                                                               
reversal decision, but the argument  for equal footing with other                                                               
states might  have be made if  the situation was still  under the                                                               
"Obama ban."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:38:03 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL asked  him  to  confirm that  the  that the  legal                                                               
argument   for  the   language,   "from  time   to  time"   means                                                               
reinstatement can occur even though  it does specifically not say                                                               
that.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. BEAUSANG answered that the  language, "from time to time," is                                                               
used in other  federal statutes and other  courts have determined                                                               
that what that means is that  it can be revisited. In the State's                                                               
view  it's  unusual  to have  a  situation  whereby  presidential                                                               
proclamation a  decision can  never be  reversed by  a subsequent                                                               
president  and  that  Congress   would  give  one  president  the                                                               
authority to make a decision that  can only be reversed by an act                                                               
of Congress.  The State's argument  is "from time to  time" means                                                               
that the decision can be  revisited by a subsequent president can                                                               
be revisited.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL asked  him to address the  Revised Statute (R.S.)                                                               
2477 access issues with the federal government on right-of-ways.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BEAUSANG  answered that  the Department of  Law has  a robust                                                               
program on  asserting the  state's right  to R.S.  2477 right-of-                                                               
ways. He  noted that the  department is currently  litigating two                                                               
cases. He  conceded that it  would be nice  if the State  did not                                                               
have to fight the federal government on the right-of-way issues.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:41:56 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  COGHILL commented  on the  noted R.S.  2477 right-of-way                                                               
cases and said  his hope is the state can  address the issue with                                                               
the federal  government on  whole areas of  access via  setting a                                                               
precedent.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BEAUSANG concurred with Senator Coghill.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL   thanked  the  Department  of   Law  for  their                                                               
overview, noting that the  Senate Resources Committee established                                                               
the  tradition  of  having  the  Department  of  Law  update  the                                                               
committee on cases  four years ago. She remarked  that the update                                                               
makes  her  proud that  the  department  is following  issues  on                                                               
behalf of Alaska's rights.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BIRCH  said  he  echoed  Senator  Giessel's  comments  and                                                               
thanked the department  for their presentation and  the work they                                                               
do to protect Alaskans' interests. He  added that he is amazed by                                                               
the depth and breadth of the department's engagement.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:44:58 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair  Birch adjourned  the Senate  Resources Standing  Committee                                                               
meeting at 4:44 p.m.                                                                                                            

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